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While talking with Jesse about how to *really* get at what I want to describe, rather than male gaze or female gaze, what we came up with was empathetic or empathizing gaze vs. Objectifying gaze.

I like accuracy of language, as you have probably figured out if you've known me a while.

You can divide any image into thirds. Your eye will fall onto the top third line or bottom third line of the frame. What sits on this line? Objectifying images often have breasts and hips of women at the top and bottom thirds. Empathethic gaze images will have the subject's eyes at the top third line (or sometimes the center or bottom third) of the image; the point is that you are focusing on their eyes and that encourages you to feel what they are feeling.

TJ and Amal ( is a good example of empathetic gaze in a comics medium.
Also see:
Mad Max: Fury Road
Moonlight - notice the focus on eyes and hands in the trailer (
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Thuvia, Laura Shapiro, Nelle

Nelle has made 1 vid, goes to VVC, is a 14 yr vid fan
Laura has been watching and making vids since 2000. Mac vidder. made about 50 vids
Thuvia has been vid fan for 10 years, made some vids.

Hillary has made 1 still source vid. wondering about free programs. Windows: Cinelerra. Beccatoria has done tutorials.
iMovie is linear, free.

Thuvia: still vidding is harder b/c less visually interesting.

Aud: how easy to get legal source?
Thuvia: ripping from DVDs is easy. can do w/ freeware. DVDfab and vidcoder.
Mac the Ripper-- works before 10.7. newer don't have Rosetta Stone.
Google "remove DRM iTunes" etc. People in the community will help you:
The tech keeps getting simpler.

5 things you wish you'd known?
Laura: That you can do it! Technical hurdles are surprassable. It's going to be as satisfying as you think it is.
You are going to really enjoy it. You don't have to follow the rules.
AMV ppl are into high quality source and high tech. that's not true. can use shitty quality, VHS, old computers.
Put an ice pack under her first vidding computer, taped the power cord.
Instead of fade to black, dim to a specific color.
Play around with your program. If you hate a beta suggestion, try it, you can still throw it out later.

Your vid is OK! if it makes you happy, it is OK!

Laura: sometimes the hard way is the easy way, and vice versa. her ex. is drawing on paper and scanning something
in instead of rotoscoping it. ie old school animation took a day instead of 9 months of digital animation struggle.

TWW: creaky door sound example. Recorded their back door squeaking (analog) instead of digital source.
Key framing is changing something over time in the vid. Telling the program what rate to progress. Can do this with any effect, making colors change,
fonts bigger and smaller. "Your Disco Needs You" titles.
Image: building vertically. an image is 4D. build up layers.

After Effects is a compositing software; not needed for most vids.

motion is visual interest. Light changes are motion. face changes are motion.

Titles? Many programs have their own tools for titles. Laura: try to make them part of the vid, not stuck on. It's a text tool.
Text takes longer to read than you think it will. read it out loud! can also build title in any other program as a graphic file and import.
Can draw titles on paper, photograph and upload. can also outsource: Kuwdora makes titles for a few dollars. Some friends are just really good at
stuff and will do things for you.

best vids are done w/ careful consideration of clip choice, how they are juxtaposed and matched w/ the music. effects are not needed.

Thuvia thinks that premiere is easier than photoshop.

Thuvia: makes an outline w/ lyrics, major time breaks, specific clips, mood. keep some notes. Now she is more comfortable and does
more direct to timeline vidding.

Thuvia: lots of different processes.
dualbunny said she just threw clips onto the timeline and it looked ok.
Laura started out doing a ton of planning. Months of work. With more practice, less planning needed.
Collaboration can necessitate more planning.
Start and end images, idea for bridge are often most important.

Aud q about exact timing. matching lyrics.
Thuvia: gets easier. you get better at it as you learn. Can look at wave form for the music. Techno and hip hop have strong beats, almost
rectangular wave forms.

Laura: be familiar and comfortable with your source.

process. Makes small clips, about 2 sec clips of useful things in the movie. Clip library, watches this with the song on.
Grounds her in how song connects to source. Categorize the clips. Setting up folders, like "Fury face reaction shots".

Thuvia: can be easy to get caught up on individual words / lines. The argument is an entire chunk of the music, not one line.

Temptation to get too granular. Pay attn to how things build. She has an example from her vid "Hey Ho." 5 betas hated something so
she finally lost it. Laura: many vidders are lyric / world people. Avg viewer won't catch all lyrics (or even any), may watch vid once.
Vids can be matched to the music also, can be very powerful. Visceral level of music.

Me: sometimes we hear lyrics wrong - subtitles.

TWW: you can vid instrumentals!
song choice is super important.
Dessa and Vienna Teng get vidded a lot; they are complex lyrically and have big motion and changes
A capella version of pop songs; covers work well

TWW: cut songs down; take a verse out. thuvia did this for "Hey Ho" to make the climax happen elsewhere.

Cutting and adding to songs is common. Laura has made long vids. Just make sure you have enough ideas. Waveforms help with this.
If you are cutting too much song; maybe there is a better song. that's tough b/c you have to break up with the song / vid pairing.

L: The bridge is the key; say something new and different.
Tempo change or guitar solo.
in Beyonce's "Freedom", kendrick lamar raps on the bridge.

Thuvia: bridge doesn't have to be "change" in the story but should be visually different
break out into different characters, for ex. Poetic b/c can be free association of images, improvisation

TWW: vidding as an argument. song gives you the structure, can radically change your argument.

Mashups usually have a bridge.
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First minute and a half of "Underground" are like a vid #HowtoVid #WisCon40

Internal and external motion add visual interest to a vid
Narrow focus. Close ups emphasize something; create a sense of intimacy and emotional connection.
Melissa adds that a close up of the eyes creates empathy with the character.
We see the slave hunter from a distance, from below, we don't see his face b/c he's a monster.

Cut to titles on a big, different sound.

Establishing shot: Bright, peaceful, big. calm. soothing. close up on cotton, tells you the importance.
emphasis on the cotton (extreme close up)
black hands on the cotton tells you who is doing the labor
Group, community shot, hidden in grass. hidden, overlooked community. White person is above on a horse, slight angle
no white faces
Historical, cultural, context
Vids often have canonical context: are you aiming at ppl who only watch your show?
Disruption onto peaceful scene
One shot with exposition
Visual metaphor: she's running to a child birth (turning point) and he's also running to a turning point; these two characters are on a parallel
you already understand the grammar of film
M. found it useful to storyboard. gives your anchors
Alexis says a vid idea is images, song, feeling

A. is now talking about Premiere. non-linear editor has multiple tracks
free software tends to be linear, but there are free non-linear editors
put some music and video in your timeline
can create clips in premiere. depends on how much hard drive space you have. external hds are recommended.
Clip - make sub clip - give it a name
Folders are called bins. Sub clips go in bins

Where do you get source material?
Alexis talks about legality
Problem is that it's easier to manipulate source that is acquired illegaly
Sometimes You Tube is the only source (ie J Monae's Many Moons)
panelists say, please email them with questions

The song shapes the images; it is the structure or the container for the argument
Editing the audio to shorten the song; can do in premiere
thuvia says you don't have to clip-- you can pull straight from source and put onto time line
m key creates a marker in premiere
a. taps the m key to the beat to help her vid to the beat; thuvia does this to big sounds
M: Wave form tells you info about the song's big sounds
You will run into speed bumps

3 recs:
Do a movie vid - limited source (or a single season show)
Do a simple vid with a clear idea, won't require a lot of tech - just str8 cuts
Have a v. passionate idea that carries you thru tech problems and frustrations

Tutorials are not basic enough for technical stuff. any recs?
panelists could put something together.
Alexis says biggest obstacle is fear usually.
Thuvia says the tech is getting easier; but getting source is harder
some TV shows are not shot in good quality


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