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I love Downton Abbey! The characters are flawed but likeable, complex people; the costumes and scenery are wonderful, and the storylines engage me, even if the soap opera aspects are a little over the top for my tastes sometimes.

I have some problems with the way they portray gay people and people with disabilities on Downton Abbey.

Ahead are spoilers. If you want to catch up, the latest eps are online at PBS.org.


Gay characters: so far there have been just two, both male: Thomas, a dishonest footman; and the Duke of Crowbourough, a guest in episode one, who is also an unlikeable character. If anyone else is gay, they haven't revealed themselves as such. I'm pleased that the writers are making Thomas more likeable as season 2 proceeds, but it is taking a while. There is also a suggestion that he is mean and standoffish because he's been pushed around, as he confided to a blind soldier in the hospital where Thomas was working. But it's tiresome to see the only regular gay character as the one that everyone loves to hate. I mentioned this to someone who also watches and her apologism was startling: "Well but at that time, that might have been the prevailing viewpoint..." I wish that I had told her, this is a modern show aimed at modern viewers. Also, it is clear that some of the servants know that Thomas prefers men, and they don't care (the cook tries to explain this to Daisy so that Daisy will give up her crush on Thomas). Their problem with Thomas is that he is mean, he steals, etc.

Portrayal of disability:
I had hopes! The first few episodes dealt so well with Mr. Bates, the new valet with the limp. Most everyone doubted his abilities, but he adapted to his situation and eventually became the most-liked person in the servant's quarters. Eventually everyone stopped thinking about his limp, though obviously it's still there. The cook also deals with fading vision due to cataracts, and she hid her problem out of fear. Eventually she has surgery to correct her vision. These were great portrayals of the everyday, normal nature of disability and the effect upon people's lives.

But things got worse with the onset of the war. We see a man in the hospital, blinded by gas used in WWI, that Thomas has befriended. This man is so depressed by his injury that he ends up killing himself, and it seems like the point of this was just to cause pain for Thomas and to create a plot point where Downton would be opened up as a recovery ward. This was really disappointing: a PWD is killed off for a plot point, and an opportunity to show someone living with a disability is lost.

Next we see Matthew become paralyzed and start using a wheelchair, which was an interesting turn of events. He apparently believes he can't have sex anymore, which seems unlikely and uncreative--it's not my area of expertise but, well. Then a couple of episodes later, it turns out the diagnosis was wrong, and he only had bruising of his spinal column. Matthew can walk again! This is a trope called "magical healing" or throwing off the disability (link goes to TV tropes). You may be saying, "But couldn't this have actually happened?" Sure it could have. It wasn't magic and maybe things like this did happen, albeit rarely. But the trope is harmful because it mainstreams the rare event, and erases the much more common event of people having to live with and adapt to new lives as wheelchair users. Again, an opportunity here is lost: to show someone living realistically with a disability. Why put Matthew in the wheelchair in the first place, if you as writers only wanted him out of it again? Why not give him some other kind of injury?

Oh, and then the Spanish Flu hits the house. As you know, Bobette, the 1918 Flu killed 3% of the world's popluation and primarily affected young adults. Here's the Wikipedia page in case you want to refresh your knowledge.. After Livinia dies, Matthew says to Mary that he thinks she dies of a broken heart, because she saw Matthew kiss Mary. Oh sure, Matthew. Sure. She died of a broken heart. Just like those millions of other people who also caught the flu! And just like Padme Skywalker. I HATE THIS TROPE can you tell.

(There is actually something called Broken Heart Syndrome but it usually occurs in women over 50 years of age, and usually isn't fatal, and anyway, I don't think it applies in the above situation.)

Well that took a while to write and had a lot of typos. Feedback welcome.

Date: 2012-02-19 06:08 am (UTC)
tamara_russo: (F is for Flight)
From: [personal profile] tamara_russo
I have to say, you made me see the show from a very different angle with your review. I rarely look at TV shows with the critic eye - I either like them or not, and I really love this show.

I actually like the soapy-drama that's going on...

Anyway, you do know there's an extra ep, right? It's the christmas special and it's super sweet. :)

Date: 2012-02-19 07:34 am (UTC)
marina: (Default)
From: [personal profile] marina
I was so torn on Thomas after S1. I think in S1 he wasn't a villain any more than Lord Grantham was a hero. All the characters had their flaws and ambitions and positive sides and you could see Thomas was just someone trying to make his way in the world. And I liked that the fact that he was into men wasn't his defining feature, and he was a fully fleshed out character who wasn't the nicest person and being gay played into that in various ways but ultimately his storyline never came down to "he's mean, but it's just because he's gay and they were oppressed you know" nor "omg evil queer!" He was neither of those things. He was just this guy who got ahead in the world in certain ways because fo his personality, who also happened to be gay.

But then in S2 when the soap opera started and all the nuance and subtelty and grayness was sucked out of the show suddenly you had heroes and villains. Suddenly the class struggle vanished or was reduced to very simplistic rhetoric. Suddenly you felt like the Earl of Grantham was someone you were meant to revere and look up to on a show that ostensibly was all about critiquing the aristocracy and exploring the problematic privilege and economic difference of the time period.

And then suddenly Thomas went from someone I found interesting and nuanced to a villain with a sob story. And not only that but, tellingly, any traces of his gayness disappeared. It was suddenly too complicated to put that in when the show was all about black and white and fairytales. Just like Mrs. Bates went from someone who sounded like a well-rounded, flawed character in S1 to a caricature villain in S2.

Ugh I used to love this show so much. And then they did the nonsense with Matthew's injury and the flu and just... sigh. No words.

Date: 2012-02-19 12:53 pm (UTC)
laceblade: (K-On: Azusa + flower)
From: [personal profile] laceblade
Just a nod of agreement here - I think the writing was way better on season one.

Date: 2012-02-19 08:43 am (UTC)
sqbr: (up)
From: [personal profile] sqbr
I've only watched the first season, everything I've heard about the second has made me decide it would probably annoy me, and this post is definitely further confirmation, thanks!

Date: 2012-02-19 10:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] prodigy
Here from [community profile] access_fandom. In short, IAWTP. I like Downton and I intend to keep following it, but I'm disappointed it suffered this much and this offensive series decay this quickly. The Matthew disability stuff was completely ridiculous and implausible and trivializing.

Thomas I think is a complicated matter, but they really need to focus on him more if they want to rescue him from the pits of Depraved Homosexual offensiveness, and allowing him a friendship in Edward would've been a start. I didn't actually find the Duke of Crowborough to be dislikeable, but I did get the impression the show probably wanted me to hate him more than I actually did; I found him fairly amoral/neutral, but I realize on a soap show like this taking actions that are mercenary and not wanting to marry a woman due to her lack of inheritance is tantamount to minor villainy.

In general I wonder why the writing got so messy in S2. I can't help but wonder if it's some kind of HBO's Rome effect where the desire to incorporate historical timelines and events led to melodrama and frantic skipping around historical events into a storyline that was probably better off without the cataclysmic war. Also, I'm not sure what motivated them to inject Downton with such a hefty dose of embarrassing stereotyping.

Date: 2012-02-19 02:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
Only seen a couple eps, but I've read several places that the show was originally planned for a one-season run. Then it turned into the best-watched-show-ever on US public TV, so they squeezed another year's eps from the creators. Which could explain much.

Date: 2012-02-19 10:40 am (UTC)
shirasade: downton abbey: the dowager duchess looking disapproving (downton abbey - violet)
From: [personal profile] shirasade
Here via [community profile] access_fandom, and you've put your fingers on pretty much everything I disliked about s2. I love this show with all my heart, but oh, the whole paralysed Matthew storyline made me cringe and want to turn it off. I kept going "don't heal him, don't heal him", but of course they did... It would have been very interesting to see him have to come out of his depression and adapt to life in a wheelchair.

Date: 2012-02-19 03:45 pm (UTC)
j00j: rainbow over east berlin plattenbau apartments (Default)
From: [personal profile] j00j
I've had the same problems with the show. Especially since it's rather anachronistic in other ways-- we'd be far less sympathetic to the characters if some of them didn't have fairly modern sensibilities about at least some issues.

Though re Matthew: my guess without knowing a lot about attitudes of the time is that it was assumed you couldn't have sex if you had a spinal cord injury, and probably that you couldn't do much of anything. Which is ridiculous, but reflected in the attitudes of other characters-- for example, the gentleman who was courting... was it Edith? Who had the injured/numb arm? Who was all "I'm not fit to court you anymore!!" (seriously, whut?) Anyway, I was hoping we were going to see Matthew learn to deal with his disability (and the extreme accessibility fail that is England at the time). Basically it would've been great if he were the Downton equivalent of Miles Vorkosigan-- the family is in a privileged position to affect how people see disability (minus the nonapplicable cultural attitudes about being a "mutant"), and maybe make things better for veterans with less money. I was also really hoping Livinia woudln't conveniently die, but of course the Spanish Flu plot was just too easy. Sigh. Thus my love/hate relationship with soap opera plots continues.

There's an AU where Matthew and Livinia and Mary form some kind of polyamorous relationship and learn to live happily ever after with their various issues, or something.

Date: 2012-02-21 03:53 am (UTC)
j00j: rainbow over east berlin plattenbau apartments (Default)
From: [personal profile] j00j
"Also Mary would make a good Dominatrix."

I could totally see that.

I am kinda sad this story is way too complicated for me to write.

Date: 2012-02-19 07:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] meganbmoore
I am very conflicted about Thomas! On the one hand, I find him surprisingly interesting given me and that type of character and I kind of love how he keeps trying to change because this is kind of his home but he's kind of a screwup when it comes to being on the straight and narrow. On the other hand, at the beginning of the series they seemed to be trying to show what it was actually like to be gay (and not rich or connected) at the time, and then they dropped that except for the references with Daisy's crush, and so it started to take on the "evil gay" thing in the first season and I wish to kick something. (Also, in season 2, I think they keep forgetting about his hand, and then suddenly remember?)

DON'T GET ME STARTED ON LAVINIA!!!! (Why can't we have a guy die of heartbreak for once or whatever?)

Date: 2012-02-20 03:22 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kal
Downton Abbey is definitely something to be enjoyed in spite of itself. Season 1 was quite good. Then Season 2 came and it felt like Julian Fellowes took every cliche (except aliens, maybe that comes in the Christmas episode?) and put together a season with relevant historical facts thrown in like croutons on top of a salad. I cringe a little as I watch, for the reasons you articulate so well, but I keep watching. Sigh.

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