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As you probably know, I am one of a handful of people who run Access at WisCon. I've done this for a few years and learned a ton. Access initiatives at WisCon have largely been very successful and well-regarded.

Karen Moore recently went to WorldCon and was struck by the difference in the lack of accessibility there vs. at WisCon. She wrote us a letter to say so, and gave me permission to quote her letter in my blog. Excerpts from her letter follow:

----begin----

As difficult as it is to juggle 1,000 convention members through the Concourse Hotel’s [WisCon's event site] elevators, I have never seen a wheelchair or scooter user wait for 55 minutes to get onto an elevator at WisCon. I’ve seen that happen multiple times this weekend. It has never been necessary at WisCon to take one elevator to the ground floor, transfer to a second elevator to reach the below-ground floors, traverse a tunnel between two buildings to reach yet a third elevator in order to reach a different floor in the other building to go from one panel to the next. That is a frequent occurrence at WorldCon; in fact, one scooter user we spoke to had concluded that the best she could hope for was to be able to attend a panel in every other timeslot, because the lengthy waits at multiple elevators meant that it took her at least two full hours to navigate from one panel to the next one.

As much of a hurdle it was to move awareness of access into the forefront of people’s consciousness at WisCon, you achieved that very effectively, with announcements, signage, blue tape and multiple other means of communicating to the able-bodied that perhaps taking the stairs would not be a huge burden, and that it would be worthwhile to do so to free up elevator space for those who cannot move between floors in any other way. At WorldCon, there was nary a whisper of such messages, save for a brief blurb titled “Be Kind to your Wheel-Footed Friends” in the Saturday newsletter – and that was AFTER I buttonholed the con chair on Friday afternoon and gave him merry hell about it.

As challenging as it is to finagle a wheelchair/scooter parking spot in some of those oddly-shaped meeting rooms at the Concourse, you still manage to do so in every single one. There is absolutely NO awareness of the need for wheelie/scooter parking spaces at WorldCon. Wheelchair/scooter users are on their own to try to squeeze into space, move chairs around, and try to find a spot to settle.

And even though it is far from ideal for wheelchair/scooter users to have to use that little elevator to navigate the half-flight of stairs to reach the last two panel rooms on the first floor, at least there IS an elevator. There is at least one room in WorldCon’s venue that can ONLY be accessed if one can climb stairs, and they programmed events in that room in every single time slot of the entire con.

And finally, as much pushback as I know Access has gotten from within the committee over its mission, at least none of WisCon’s concom (that I know of) has ever seriously suggested developing an entire track of programming that doesn’t exist, located in a room that doesn’t exist, and then put the damn thing in the pocket program book, the online program and everywhere else. Evidently, someone in the WorldCon committee finds it immensely amusing to think of a convention member with no cartilage left in his hips struggling painfully down multiple escalators, across the tunnel, up more escalators, then searching through a maze of corridors for a program event, only to find a sign that essentially says “Ha, ha, gotcha, Sucker!” The con chair heard from me on that topic as well, by the way. His response? “Well, I’m sorry you don’t see the humor in it.”

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WorldCon does have an accessibility department, but it sounds like it is not succeeding. It also sounds like, from this last paragraph, that the ConCom trolled its own membership.

I repost this here not to pick on WorldCon or to cause drama, but rather to say, here is a problem, at this covention and at others. What can we do to work on addressing this problem?

Initiatives at WisCon succeeded because of committed activists and allies. I suspect that each convention will need insiders on their con coms to bring initiatives forward-- that change will have to come from the inside.

At one convention that I won't name at present, I think that criticism around accessibility caused a very strong backlash, and that comparisons to WisCon only made the backlash worse. We were seen as condescending outsiders to their in group. My own perspective is that I have practical experience that I want to share, but, the criticism was not taken as constructive and relationships were damaged.

This is not my intention here. Better access improves things for everyone involved, and it is not as hard to implement as one might think.

Thoughts?
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Date: 2012-09-06 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mariness
According to Ursula Vernon people were backstage to help.

I am hoping that the ramp can be changed next year. If the San Antonio Convention Center is anything like the Orange County Convention Center here in Orlando (and from pictures they seem to be kinda the same sort of general purpose convention centers) they should have several types of ramps available, including adjustable ones and one that can be bent with a little landing and put on the side of the stage -- I've seen those at the Disney convention centers as well. This, unlike, say, the number of elevators at the Hyatt at DragonCon, is a solvable problem.

Date: 2012-09-06 10:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] paradoox
The ramp at Chicago was an example of how separate is not equal or how accommodations need to as equal / equivalent as possible. I will fully believe that every acceptor at the Hugos was told that there was a ramp. BUT, IT WAS IN THE BACK AND IT WAS OUT OF THE WAY, AND PEOPLE WOULD HAVE HAD TO DISAPPEAR FROM VIEW FOR MINUTES TO USE THE RAMP ON THE WAY TO ACCEPT A HUGO. And that is not to mention that the ramp was dark. Thus, I suspect that a lot of people who would have used the ramp if it was convenient and close to the stairs chose to use the stairs instead even if it was hard for them. Yes, the ramp was probably in the back to save room for more chairs. But, that isn't really a good reason. In hindsight, it should have been in the front.

Date: 2012-09-06 11:36 pm (UTC)
amberfox: picture from the Order of Hermes tradition book for Mage: The Awakening, subgroup House Shaea (Default)
From: [personal profile] amberfox
My friend Dustin just asked me to find out when Dallas Comic-Con is this year. Having been following this thread, a couple of things caught my eye immediately when I pulled up the site. The first was simply that it's not well designed; I had a hard time figuring out where the information I wanted was, and several of the links don't work at all. (The main page also has autoplay, which sent me diving for my Mute button.)

The second response involved more random characters; the main program page is a picture, which means I can't enlarge the text, or highlight it, or change it in any way. My eyesight is relatively decent with my glasses on and I was *still* leaning in to about a foot from the monitor to read the names of guests. (I fell back on my usual response to bad design, Readability, but since the information was all on a picture, it didn't help.)

Date: 2012-09-06 11:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] emperorzombie
It may have just been me, but part of the problem was that I found it difficult to actually find the stairs in the West Tower, and at one point when going down the stairs I seemed to end up in a bit that was not generally guest accessible. Some signs to make the stairs more obvious could have helped with the lift crush, since I was usually going up or down one level only and was happy to do that via the stairs.

Date: 2012-09-06 11:54 pm (UTC)
amberfox: picture from the Order of Hermes tradition book for Mage: The Awakening, subgroup House Shaea (Default)
From: [personal profile] amberfox
Okay.... Apparently that was the May site, which is still up for some unknown reason. The October site is here. The schedule isn't out despite the con being in mid-October, but at least the list of guests is in text this time? 10pt text, but text.... (I'll be honest. It's really crappy.)

Date: 2012-09-07 01:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] naomikritzer
I have totally volunteered for fake panels when signing up to do programming at Convergence.

At Convergence, it's typically a very specific track and they say in the program book that it's fake (you have to spot that notation, though). Some of the panels sound totally awesome, though, and really SHOULD be real, dammit.

Date: 2012-09-07 01:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] naomikritzer
Yeah, the signage was terrible. I heard somewhere that the hotel didn't want tape on their walls. Of course, the wrong sorts of tape can damage wallpaper, but what about the Magic Blue Tape that All Cons Use? Cons NEED signage. They need LOTS of signage. I wasn't even sure which floors were party floors, all con.

Date: 2012-09-07 01:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] naomikritzer
Yes. More signs would have been helpful almost EVERYWHERE. What I heard is that the hotel didn't want tape on their walls (and that's understandable, but there's a tape that doesn't damage wallpaper that all the other cons I attend get to use...)

Date: 2012-09-07 02:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] naomikritzer
IT IS SO AWESOME.

SO
AWESOME.

Nearly everyone at WisCon has their own set of reasons for loving it: mobility issues, or crowd anxiety issues, or a small child that comes with them to con, or just that they can get out when they're ready to leave.

It is seriously one of the most well-designed functional innovations I've seen in fandom and I would love to see it catch on at more cons. You do need security volunteers to remind people to stand on the correct side, but you know, THEY CAN ALSO get from Point A to Point B and this makes their lives easier too. (I don't know whether they had to add security volunteers when this got implemented, or if they have the same number now as they had before.)

Date: 2012-09-07 03:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] avendya
This twenty-one-year-old with a mobility impairment (which I've had since I was 13) would prefer programming for teens to also be accessible sans stairs.

Re: looking further ahead....

Date: 2012-09-07 04:22 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I lived in Spokane for several years, and down around the convention center (and Riverfront Park, which is literally just out the door) was a popular stomping ground. When they say that the hotels across the river are very close, they mean it. However, my memories tell me that the important questions to ask will involve the pathways outside the convention center. The Centennial Trail (right outside) is a bike trail and thus well-maintained, but I honestly don't recall if there's a good ramp system on the other side of the river to various hotels. Spokane is one of those cities where the good is very good but the bad is horrid—and by that, I mean cracked sidewalks, no sidewalks, or various pedestrian-unfriendly routes.

I would highly suggest that someone on the convention committee (or an on-site volunteer) walk every single route, noting difficulties along the way (including grade; there are some lovely paved paths in Riverfront Park that could be problematic for someone who struggles with hills.) Then make sure that hotels with access issues are noted as such, because it would be awful to be trapped by a single flight of stairs.

—B. Durbin

Date: 2012-09-07 04:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] emceeaich
One suggestion: take the room parties out of the guest rooms and penthouse parlors, and put them on the ground and mezzanine levels of the convention center and hotels. Abled-bodied members can walk a flight or two of stairs and save the elevators for those who need them to go up or down a level.

London in 2014's planning to have the parties at the convention center, but that does mean changes for how you use space in the evening, and negotiations over catering. But we're Fandom and we know how to negotiate hotel contracts.

Re: Stagg Field track

Date: 2012-09-07 04:45 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Somewhere between 15% and 20% of the people whose name badges I read were using fannish names rather than legal names.

At least 10%, probably more, of the members present were cosplaying throughout the entire con.

Given those two facts, plus the fact that I lacked any prior awareness of Chicago-area fandom's fondness for fake program items, what precisely would lead me to conclude that the program about the Higgs Boson was phony?

When I read the description of that panel, I assumed that the panelists would be cosplayers with a lot of science cred to carry off an interesting/amusing imagined discussion between Hawking and Einstein. I mean, after all, it's WorldCon, and they do all sorts of way cool stuff, far more ambitious than a local or regional con - why would I conclude that was someone's lame attempt at humor rather than an actual program item?

The point is that "universal access" means SO much more than just wheelie parking spaces and big-print programs - it means examining every aspect of a con and asking hard questions about whether or not EVERY convention member can and will experience it as intended.

Humor doesn't play the same everywhere; what a Midwesterner finds funny will baffle someone from the east coast, and something that tickles a southerner's funnybone might leave a northerner totally stone-faced. So expecting convention attendees from around the globe to understand local humor is asking an awful lot.

Date: 2012-09-07 04:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lcohen
it wasn't just you--we tried to take the stairs at one point and wound up in accounting, completely unable to reaccess the con--we had to retrace our steps up the stairs (i'm temporarily able-bodied, except i have asthma so up too many flights of stairs is not fun for me). some of the stairs were useful and some were terrible and you didn't know which set you had until you were on them.

Date: 2012-09-07 06:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cadenzamuse
Yep, having been to Dragon*Con this weekend with some Deaf friends, I was kind of appalled to discover that only one of the panels they had wanted to attend had a terp. Dragon*Con does provide Line of Sight seating for Deaf/HoH participants, so lip readers can sit up close and either see the panelists or the interpreter, but...bwah? They went to multiple very large panels with ballroom-sized seating. I would assume a con with 50,000 people would have interpreters for all their large panels, even if they couldn't manage it for every single panel. (Although, looking at their "Disability Services" section, it looks like their interpeters are volunteers. Not On.)

Date: 2012-09-07 06:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wordweaverlynn
I'm glad it was obvious. Since we're back on time-change weekend, we were thinking of doing it again. But there will be much discussion first.

Date: 2012-09-07 06:31 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wordweaverlynn
Everything was scheduled for 2AM, which is time-change time, and we also had many signs, blog posts, etc., reminding people that they needed to spring forward. Also, we referred to it all as Interstitial Programming.

The cultural knowledge that Fritz Leiber is dead was quite clear, because he was Ghost of Honor. (We always have a posthumous honored guest.) But again, this is something seriously worth thinking about -- and asking con members about.

Re: Venues for change

Date: 2012-09-07 06:41 am (UTC)
wordweaverlynn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wordweaverlynn
I do Access for FOGcon, and I'm seriously grateful for your comments. We modeled our Access policy after Wiscon's, and most of the concom members are very aware of access issues. Which doesn't mean we can't improve.

Date: 2012-09-07 06:55 am (UTC)
wordweaverlynn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wordweaverlynn
In addition to Access, I also do the FOGcon website. Noted.

Date: 2012-09-07 07:02 am (UTC)
amberfox: picture from the Order of Hermes tradition book for Mage: The Awakening, subgroup House Shaea (Default)
From: [personal profile] amberfox
Thank you. )

Date: 2012-09-07 07:16 am (UTC)
wordweaverlynn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wordweaverlynn
One of my pet website peeves is tiny tiny gray-on-gray type. I'm 53. Even with reading glasses, I can't read that.

Re: Stagg Field track

Date: 2012-09-07 08:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jackandahat
I'm wondering if none of the people who are saying "But it said Charles Xavier/Einstein/Cleopatra so everyone knew it was fake!" have ever heard of balloon debates.

In a balloon debate, a bunch of people are assigned characters - may be fictional, may be historical - and have to argue for an audience why they shouldn't be thrown out of a hypothetical sinking balloon. And people get really into it - for example a Harry Potter one where people dressed as their characters. I once chaired dressed as Death, and someone else chaired several times as Anne Robinson.

So especially at a con, with the amount of cosplay, I'd just assume they'd got someone who could do a decent costume and would be appearing in-character rather than as themselves.

Re: looking further ahead....

Date: 2012-09-07 12:56 pm (UTC)
feuervogel: photo of the statue of Victory and her chariot on the Brandenburg Gate (Default)
From: [personal profile] feuervogel
That is an excellent idea.

Tape?

Date: 2012-09-07 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The hotel forbade *any* tape whatsoever, even the magical blue tape. The con (and guests, hence no room party signs for the most part) were forbidden from affixing anything to any surface of any kind. You could drape something over a chair, or use an easel/sign board, but that was it.

Which is an issue, but it's not something the hotel liaison was able to fix for this con.

Date: 2012-09-07 03:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] izzybelbooks
I'm able-bodied and the amount of fail I noticed about Access at this year's WorldCon was ridiculous, especially given the large number of folks that need Access. It was yet another list of things to add to the fail list, so I wasn't really surprised, which is sad. It definitely made me miss WisCon and made me realize just how spoiled I am to be part of a community that actually cares about its members and puts its money where its mouth is in terms of making Access a priority for all.

It felt weird to go to panels and not see blue tape on the chairs in the front row, strange to not have parking spaces for scooters, rude not to have signs reminding folks to take the stairs instead of the elevator when possible. During one panel in the room with stairs, I got up to shut the door because the hallway was noisy, and there was a woman in a scooter at the bottom of the stairs, trying to hear the panel, so we left the door open. I was so furious that this poor woman had to sit outside. It just felt wrong. Access was framed as Disability Services, hence no one but Disabled people (you know, those people) needed to worry about it. Ugh.

I did mention this to Disability Services directly, and I brought it up on the Fandom's Blind Spots panel, but given the Worldcon culture, I am not holding out any hope for a WisCon-like atmosphere any time soon, although I hear London is taking this seriously for 2013. We'll see.
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