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As you probably know, I am one of a handful of people who run Access at WisCon. I've done this for a few years and learned a ton. Access initiatives at WisCon have largely been very successful and well-regarded.
Karen Moore recently went to WorldCon and was struck by the difference in the lack of accessibility there vs. at WisCon. She wrote us a letter to say so, and gave me permission to quote her letter in my blog. Excerpts from her letter follow:
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As difficult as it is to juggle 1,000 convention members through the Concourse Hotel’s [WisCon's event site] elevators, I have never seen a wheelchair or scooter user wait for 55 minutes to get onto an elevator at WisCon. I’ve seen that happen multiple times this weekend. It has never been necessary at WisCon to take one elevator to the ground floor, transfer to a second elevator to reach the below-ground floors, traverse a tunnel between two buildings to reach yet a third elevator in order to reach a different floor in the other building to go from one panel to the next. That is a frequent occurrence at WorldCon; in fact, one scooter user we spoke to had concluded that the best she could hope for was to be able to attend a panel in every other timeslot, because the lengthy waits at multiple elevators meant that it took her at least two full hours to navigate from one panel to the next one.
As much of a hurdle it was to move awareness of access into the forefront of people’s consciousness at WisCon, you achieved that very effectively, with announcements, signage, blue tape and multiple other means of communicating to the able-bodied that perhaps taking the stairs would not be a huge burden, and that it would be worthwhile to do so to free up elevator space for those who cannot move between floors in any other way. At WorldCon, there was nary a whisper of such messages, save for a brief blurb titled “Be Kind to your Wheel-Footed Friends” in the Saturday newsletter – and that was AFTER I buttonholed the con chair on Friday afternoon and gave him merry hell about it.
As challenging as it is to finagle a wheelchair/scooter parking spot in some of those oddly-shaped meeting rooms at the Concourse, you still manage to do so in every single one. There is absolutely NO awareness of the need for wheelie/scooter parking spaces at WorldCon. Wheelchair/scooter users are on their own to try to squeeze into space, move chairs around, and try to find a spot to settle.
And even though it is far from ideal for wheelchair/scooter users to have to use that little elevator to navigate the half-flight of stairs to reach the last two panel rooms on the first floor, at least there IS an elevator. There is at least one room in WorldCon’s venue that can ONLY be accessed if one can climb stairs, and they programmed events in that room in every single time slot of the entire con.
And finally, as much pushback as I know Access has gotten from within the committee over its mission, at least none of WisCon’s concom (that I know of) has ever seriously suggested developing an entire track of programming that doesn’t exist, located in a room that doesn’t exist, and then put the damn thing in the pocket program book, the online program and everywhere else. Evidently, someone in the WorldCon committee finds it immensely amusing to think of a convention member with no cartilage left in his hips struggling painfully down multiple escalators, across the tunnel, up more escalators, then searching through a maze of corridors for a program event, only to find a sign that essentially says “Ha, ha, gotcha, Sucker!” The con chair heard from me on that topic as well, by the way. His response? “Well, I’m sorry you don’t see the humor in it.”
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WorldCon does have an accessibility department, but it sounds like it is not succeeding. It also sounds like, from this last paragraph, that the ConCom trolled its own membership.
I repost this here not to pick on WorldCon or to cause drama, but rather to say, here is a problem, at this covention and at others. What can we do to work on addressing this problem?
Initiatives at WisCon succeeded because of committed activists and allies. I suspect that each convention will need insiders on their con coms to bring initiatives forward-- that change will have to come from the inside.
At one convention that I won't name at present, I think that criticism around accessibility caused a very strong backlash, and that comparisons to WisCon only made the backlash worse. We were seen as condescending outsiders to their in group. My own perspective is that I have practical experience that I want to share, but, the criticism was not taken as constructive and relationships were damaged.
This is not my intention here. Better access improves things for everyone involved, and it is not as hard to implement as one might think.
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Karen Moore recently went to WorldCon and was struck by the difference in the lack of accessibility there vs. at WisCon. She wrote us a letter to say so, and gave me permission to quote her letter in my blog. Excerpts from her letter follow:
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As difficult as it is to juggle 1,000 convention members through the Concourse Hotel’s [WisCon's event site] elevators, I have never seen a wheelchair or scooter user wait for 55 minutes to get onto an elevator at WisCon. I’ve seen that happen multiple times this weekend. It has never been necessary at WisCon to take one elevator to the ground floor, transfer to a second elevator to reach the below-ground floors, traverse a tunnel between two buildings to reach yet a third elevator in order to reach a different floor in the other building to go from one panel to the next. That is a frequent occurrence at WorldCon; in fact, one scooter user we spoke to had concluded that the best she could hope for was to be able to attend a panel in every other timeslot, because the lengthy waits at multiple elevators meant that it took her at least two full hours to navigate from one panel to the next one.
As much of a hurdle it was to move awareness of access into the forefront of people’s consciousness at WisCon, you achieved that very effectively, with announcements, signage, blue tape and multiple other means of communicating to the able-bodied that perhaps taking the stairs would not be a huge burden, and that it would be worthwhile to do so to free up elevator space for those who cannot move between floors in any other way. At WorldCon, there was nary a whisper of such messages, save for a brief blurb titled “Be Kind to your Wheel-Footed Friends” in the Saturday newsletter – and that was AFTER I buttonholed the con chair on Friday afternoon and gave him merry hell about it.
As challenging as it is to finagle a wheelchair/scooter parking spot in some of those oddly-shaped meeting rooms at the Concourse, you still manage to do so in every single one. There is absolutely NO awareness of the need for wheelie/scooter parking spaces at WorldCon. Wheelchair/scooter users are on their own to try to squeeze into space, move chairs around, and try to find a spot to settle.
And even though it is far from ideal for wheelchair/scooter users to have to use that little elevator to navigate the half-flight of stairs to reach the last two panel rooms on the first floor, at least there IS an elevator. There is at least one room in WorldCon’s venue that can ONLY be accessed if one can climb stairs, and they programmed events in that room in every single time slot of the entire con.
And finally, as much pushback as I know Access has gotten from within the committee over its mission, at least none of WisCon’s concom (that I know of) has ever seriously suggested developing an entire track of programming that doesn’t exist, located in a room that doesn’t exist, and then put the damn thing in the pocket program book, the online program and everywhere else. Evidently, someone in the WorldCon committee finds it immensely amusing to think of a convention member with no cartilage left in his hips struggling painfully down multiple escalators, across the tunnel, up more escalators, then searching through a maze of corridors for a program event, only to find a sign that essentially says “Ha, ha, gotcha, Sucker!” The con chair heard from me on that topic as well, by the way. His response? “Well, I’m sorry you don’t see the humor in it.”
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WorldCon does have an accessibility department, but it sounds like it is not succeeding. It also sounds like, from this last paragraph, that the ConCom trolled its own membership.
I repost this here not to pick on WorldCon or to cause drama, but rather to say, here is a problem, at this covention and at others. What can we do to work on addressing this problem?
Initiatives at WisCon succeeded because of committed activists and allies. I suspect that each convention will need insiders on their con coms to bring initiatives forward-- that change will have to come from the inside.
At one convention that I won't name at present, I think that criticism around accessibility caused a very strong backlash, and that comparisons to WisCon only made the backlash worse. We were seen as condescending outsiders to their in group. My own perspective is that I have practical experience that I want to share, but, the criticism was not taken as constructive and relationships were damaged.
This is not my intention here. Better access improves things for everyone involved, and it is not as hard to implement as one might think.
Thoughts?
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Date: 2012-09-03 06:45 pm (UTC)...what?! I currently have no mobility issues, but I'd still resent the hell out of a concom who thought wasting my time in such a way (and thus making me miss panels that actually exist) was a hilarious joke. That was incredibly unprofessional on someone's part.
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Date: 2012-09-03 07:05 pm (UTC)... What, like they're puppies?
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Date: 2012-09-03 07:08 pm (UTC)Here's the song, which yeah, is a kids' song:
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Date: 2012-09-03 09:24 pm (UTC)It was a long time before I recognized my own access needs and their validity because the world is designed in a way that needs are termed "special," and it doesn't always feel like my needs are "important enough" for "special" access. I bet there are a lot of folks like this, who would take advantage of access that was offered just par for the course but wouldn't know to bring it up elsewhere. At a recent con I attended a PWD gathering where we started introductions with name, pronouns, and any access needs--about 1/3 of the group stated that they weren't sure what their access needs were because they were so new to being asked and hadn't had time to think about and name their needs. The first time I used ASL interpretation was at a con where many interpreters were available and some friends encouraged me to ask because I was really frustrated trying to hear in a workshop and couldn't focus on the content. I timidly asked, and though I hadn't requested interpreters, the coordinator was kind, helpful, and figured out a way to get me a team for the day and then hired additional interpreters the next day. My access was far better and I came away with a really good feeling about the event.
Of course, it's not always financially feasible to provide interpreters, and it is usually the more expensive, larger cons that can provide the ideal access of interpreters for every workshop. But even comparing WisCon and WorldCon on this, I notice that WorldCon emphasizes that interpreters may be available for some events and that they will not be paid. WisCon's policy seems to be a "we'll do our best!" which if not ideal is a better approach than "hey, uh, anyone want to volunteer?"
I'm considering saving up to go to WisCon one day, and I'm glad to see that y'all are at least putting forth a serious effort on access and framing it as a natural, common need for the whole con population rather than a "special" thing.
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Date: 2012-09-03 10:52 pm (UTC)I just-- I'm really appalled at the idea of not paying interpreters. I know that a lot of conventions are run by volunteers, etc, but this is different because it is about the charity (ie pity) model of disability rather than the social justice model of disability. It is better to have no interpreters at all, IMO, than to have unpaid ones, because this just reinforces a very old idea of PWD getting the crumbs from the table, and people who serve PWD doing noble self-sacrificing charity work, rather than regular old paid work.
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Date: 2012-09-04 03:36 am (UTC)The Worldcon site was definitely awkward re: mobility. To get from registration to the Art Show, for example, required going up one level, across a connection bridge to a second building, and then down one level.
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Date: 2012-09-04 06:49 pm (UTC)The hotel itself had issues; I wonder if that's the best-suited convention space in Chicago... (I don't live there, so I can't say).
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Date: 2012-09-04 06:45 am (UTC)Handicapped Services: Sally Woerhle
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Two people doesn't seem like much for a con this size. I'd also like to mention that the WorldCon Greenhorn page doesn't even mention any of the following:
* accessibility
* handicaps
* disabilities
* wheelchairs
* walkers
* crutches
* canes
* elevators
* stairs
* ramps
* deafness
* interpreters
* blindness
* Braille
* epilepsy (which can be a real problem in presentations that feature flashing or rhythmic lights)
* service animals
* pain
It doesn't sound as if it occurred to anyone that any first-time attendees might not be in perfect physical shape...even though it should have.
Apparently any questions not answered on the site should be addressed here:
info@lonestarcon3.org
Which I hope that some people will. It looks as if this year's disaster might not be a one-off.
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Date: 2012-09-05 03:53 pm (UTC)https://www.loncon3.org/
Looking further out to Spokane Vs. Orlando (which will be voted on next summer),
One of the prime selling point of the Orlando site is accessibility (golf cart shuttles around an enclosed ground), they already have been thinking about fans with disabilities.
(Spokane looks pretty cool too, but I can see how "its all so walkable" raises red flags for people who have concerns about either mobility and wayfinding.
http://www.spokanein2015.org/wordpress/
http://www.orlandoin2015.org/
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Date: 2012-09-04 07:36 pm (UTC)Selkie
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Date: 2012-09-04 10:16 pm (UTC)It's really, really hard to integrate the understanding and implementation of access needs across the board among all departments involved in putting on a convention. It requires a major cultural shift, one that often means multiple years of incremental improvements, and inevitably there is pushback from others on the committee who just don't perceive it as a priority. But using that as an excuse to do nothing is no excuse at all; any change, any improvement, even in baby steps, is progress.
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Date: 2012-09-05 06:33 pm (UTC)This is not to excuse anything, but WorldCons will always have more trouble dealing with those kinds of issues by the very nature of the con.
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Date: 2012-09-05 08:31 pm (UTC)As to the joke program items, I think it was a Chicago "in" joke that fell very flat. Why they felt they need to do it in the first place, I don't know.
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Date: 2012-09-06 03:26 pm (UTC)The fundamental problem is that when you want to accommodate 5,000 to 6,000 people, there's a limited number of hotel options. The Hyatt was at least designed for that many people, which gives it an advantage over the hotel Convergence is held at. (There simply AREN'T any hotels in the Twin Cities that are really big enough on their own for something like this.)
I would really like to come up with some elevator policies that basically say, "hey, if you're in an elevator going down and someone with a mobility problem needs to get on, people who can take the stairs need to GET OFF." The problem is that the elevator stops and opens only very briefly, and looking out, assessing people's mobility, and offering up one's spot is a pretty complex operation (not to mention, it doesn't do much for people whose disabilities aren't instantly visible). I mean, I could take the stairs, and did, at one point -- but coming down 22 floors left me with a pretty bad muscle strain (somewhat to my surprise) and it's not inherently unreasonable to want to take the elevator down even if you're not disabled.
I'm not sure how to solve this problem, but I would really like to -- not only for WorldCons, but for other cons with elevator crunches (which is to say, most cons).
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Date: 2012-09-06 03:30 pm (UTC)I'm able-bodied and the universal design approach of Wiscon has significantly improved my con experience there. (THE TRAFFIC LANES ON THE PARTY FLOOR. OMG. <3 <3 <3 Even things like the way signs are posted to make it more efficient to find rooms are awesome. But it's the traffic lanes that really sum up for me the beauty of universal design, because _everyone_ loves them, even though lots of people have to be hounded occasionally to get them out of the traffic lane and into the parking lane.)
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Date: 2012-09-06 03:45 pm (UTC)To access the stage for the Hugo Awards, winners had to climb up three steps. Before the live feed came on, I saw at least three people have difficulty navigating the steps. And I did not see one visible ramp.
After I posted about this on Twitter and LJ, I was informed that oh, yes, yes, there was indeed a ramp. It was HIDDEN BEHIND A CURTAIN, so dark that able bodied people had to be guided down it and even with that there were difficulties, and was set up under the (probably correct) assumption that Hugo winners would be so delighted and out of it that they would fall off the stage if it wasn't there.
Why am I annoyed about this? Because the Nebulas went out of their way to provide a ramp. The Democratic National Convention has both stairs and a ramp to their stage (it's all back access; I saw this when the CNN cameras were following Obama and Clinton last night.) Hell, the Republican National Convention, which is definitely NOT going for the disability vote and as far as I know had no disabled speakers, HAD A RAMP. (I will credit Ann Romney's influence there.) So did the Oscars which, again, not the first event to come to mind when thinking disability friendliness.
This is, I realize, minor compared to the elevator and other issues. I really do get that. But the plain fact is that many authors and fans and editors and authors use mobility scooters and wheelchairs -- this is definitely not just me -- and a ramp should BE THERE ALL ALONG, not just thrown up if and when one of us is nominated for an award.
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My experience with Dragoncon pre wheelchair was that it was the least disabled friendly space I'd seen in some time. I understand some aspects have been improved, in particular disabled seating and some issues with the Sheraton, but I ended up not going to Dragoncon this year because the Hyatt hotel is reportedly still very, very difficult to navigate if, like me, you can't use escalators :(
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Er. Sorry for ranting all over your space. I will shut up now.
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Date: 2012-09-06 03:53 pm (UTC)I do a number of cons, and year after year, con after con, the thing I really notice is "Do you have somebody from security manning the elevators? Why the hell not?" It can't fix a lot of these issues, but it makes life a lot easier.
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Date: 2012-09-06 04:09 pm (UTC)Which is better than Dragon*Con, but could still be improved mightily.
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Date: 2012-09-06 08:23 pm (UTC)On the plus side, all future Worldcons and bids are in ADA-compliant facilities. Although it's possible that Helsinki (a 2015 bid) may not have some ADA-compliant hotels--once they pin down the hotels. And if a New Orleans in 2018 bid materializes, there may be some outlier hotels which are also non-compliant.
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Date: 2012-09-06 09:46 pm (UTC)The ADA has been around since 1990; it's too bad it doesn't have more teeth.
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Date: 2012-09-06 11:36 pm (UTC)The second response involved more random characters; the main program page is a picture, which means I can't enlarge the text, or highlight it, or change it in any way. My eyesight is relatively decent with my glasses on and I was *still* leaning in to about a foot from the monitor to read the names of guests. (I fell back on my usual response to bad design, Readability, but since the information was all on a picture, it didn't help.)
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Date: 2012-09-07 04:36 am (UTC)London in 2014's planning to have the parties at the convention center, but that does mean changes for how you use space in the evening, and negotiations over catering. But we're Fandom and we know how to negotiate hotel contracts.
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Date: 2012-09-07 05:27 pm (UTC)Someday there'll be a WorldCon somewhere I can afford to go AND physically manage... Someday. For the meantime, it's Discworld Con, Starfury & possibly EuroCon (Dublin) for me. Sigh. Being excluded by inaccessibility is a stressful thing. Particularly when you're not 30 yet & people assume you have to be older to be using a wheelchair.
- Trialia, who can't seem to log in.
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Date: 2012-09-07 03:35 pm (UTC)It felt weird to go to panels and not see blue tape on the chairs in the front row, strange to not have parking spaces for scooters, rude not to have signs reminding folks to take the stairs instead of the elevator when possible. During one panel in the room with stairs, I got up to shut the door because the hallway was noisy, and there was a woman in a scooter at the bottom of the stairs, trying to hear the panel, so we left the door open. I was so furious that this poor woman had to sit outside. It just felt wrong. Access was framed as Disability Services, hence no one but Disabled people (you know, those people) needed to worry about it. Ugh.
I did mention this to Disability Services directly, and I brought it up on the Fandom's Blind Spots panel, but given the Worldcon culture, I am not holding out any hope for a WisCon-like atmosphere any time soon, although I hear London is taking this seriously for 2013. We'll see.
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Date: 2012-09-07 04:42 pm (UTC)Three things that would have really helped me:
1. A way to sit down and not get bumped out of lines. (I may end up getting a walker for other cons for just that reason.)
2. Better signage. The type on the room signs showing what events were in them was way too small to read without getting up on top of them.
3. Better 'color coding' on the pocket programs. At least there was a legend which LOOKED like some of the events had been color coded somewhere, but all the grays looked alike to my eyes. Try a crosshatch or other textured fill next time, guys.
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Date: 2012-09-19 03:55 pm (UTC)Cons should be addressing "how not to make people stand up who can't", but I find this cane increases my ability to cope.
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Date: 2012-09-08 04:59 pm (UTC)Absolutely appalled
Date: 2012-09-08 06:20 pm (UTC)And the idea that the "big dog" of the con world would think inconveniencing people (at minimum) with a fake program track is a joke? That they'd have a con that size in a hotel that sounds like it was designed by an architect who'd never seen anyone use a wheelchair, or maybe that the hotel company tromped on any more access-positive designs (probably due to costs)?
Bloody hell. I think part of the evaluation process for a con hotel/convention center ought to include "walkthroughs" of the venues by people using scooters or wheelchairs, at the very least, so that accessibility issues and any workarounds can be pointed out on the website as soon as possible.
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Date: 2012-09-10 12:06 pm (UTC)A few years ago, Arisia in Boston was at a quirky Hyatt which is built something like a ziggaraut. It is gorgeous, and has quite a bit of charm, and is physically completely inappropriate for the kinds of traffic patters that a con has. And the place was NOT built with accessibility as a concern.
This caused major problems, of course. But fewer, and less serious, than at many other cons, because both the con runners and the hotel staff went out of their way to try to deal with the problems, both proactively and reactively. Actual thought went into how to mitigate the problems, actual resources went into trying to solve them.
The results weren't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, and Arisia has since moved to a different hotel. But I was impressed by how much LESS serious the problems were than they might have been.
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Date: 2012-09-10 04:35 pm (UTC)WisCon is held in a venue that is less than perfectly ideal for access needs. But WisCon's committee (the ENTIRE committee, not just the Access department) goes to extraordinary lengths to embrace access needs and implement changes in every facet of the convention, from registration to con suite to programming to hotel liaison work to publications. And the committee also provides near-continual reminders to the entire community in attendance throughout the con of the importance of respecting access needs, including "how to be a useful ally" information.
At least in my eyes, this is what raises a decently accessible event to an exceptional one. And there was absolutely none of that at WorldCon this year, despite the fact that the known deficiencies of the venue made it even more critical than it is at other events. That is the crux of my dismay (fury) with the WorldCon committee: as bad as their venue was for access, they didn't care enough about the percentage of their members who absolutely required access accommodations in order to fully experience the convention to do any kind of adjustments, or even to remind members to be supportive/helpful until they were reminded that it might be a good idea.
And in the year 2012, that is Just Plain Wrong.
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